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It was disclosed today that Washington’s answer to accommodating those displaced by the recent hurricanes was to put them up in luxury cruise ships. Moreover, in typical government fashion, they paid Carnival Cruise Lines nearly double the normal per-person cost for an actual cruise. The total? $236 MILLION! These imbeciles are pretty generous when it comes to spending YOUR money. To add insult to injury, most evacuees want nothing to do with living on the water, so the three chartered ships remain largely empty. Go ahead, keep casting your votes for ‘Republicrats’ and you’ll continue to get precisely the government you deserve. Hollis, http://www.AmericanJunta.com — Posted via NewsDemon.com – Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > It was disclosed today that Washington’s answer to accommodating those > displaced by the recent hurricanes was to put them up in luxury cruise > ships. Moreover, in typical government fashion, they paid Carnival Cruise > Lines nearly double the normal per-person cost for an actual cruise. The > total? $236 MILLION! These imbeciles are pretty generous when it comes to > spending YOUR money. To add insult to injury, most evacuees want nothing to > do with living on the water, so the three chartered ships remain largely > empty. Go ahead, keep casting your votes for ‘Republicrats’ and you’ll > continue to get precisely the government you deserve. > Hollis, > http://www.AmericanJunta.com
and how much did Carnival contribute to the Republicans in the last election??? and in the next election???? Who is their lobbiest?
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> Responding to NNC’s call to take back rec.nude, let me offer up a > quick trip report from a vacation last year. My wife and I spend a > week in November 2004 staying at Orient Beach on French St. Martin. > While not primarily there to spend time at the nude portion, we > didn’t shy away from it either.
Good for you. Did you enjoy your nudity? Friends and I frequent this beach and others. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> ** Geography ** > Before telling my own experience with Orient Beach it would be best to > give some idea of the layout of the beach and surrounding facilities. > Orient Beach is on the Northeast side of Saint Martin facing out > towards the Atlantic Ocean. The beach runs from Southeast to Northwest > with the Southeast half being the most heavily developed. > At the Southeast end of the beach is the clothing optional resort, Club > Orient. The Club Orient portion of the beach ends at a rock break > (might have to get your feet wet) before opening up to the rest of the > beach. Going up the beach from Club Orient is a series of small bars, > restaurants, and shops until you hit the Orient Village about 2/5 of > the way up the beach. Right after the village is several large beach > operations with bars, restaurants, and lounge chairs including La > Playa, which is where we spent much of our time during the day. At > about the 3/5 mark the development stops and the beach turns fairly > wild (no chairs and backed by dunes) until you reach the Mount Vernon > hotel at the far Northwest end. > A couple of photos of the northern half of the beach are available via > the link at the bottom of this report. > One interesting location on the beach is a small thong bikini shop just > outside of Club Orient. The owners of the shop tend to work in the > nude, so you might get a slight surprise when you are digging through > bins of thongs and look up to see that the proprietor is wearing > nothing but a smile. > Since Orient Beach faces out towards the Atlantic, it tends to be > rather windy. There was a few times we were nearly driven off the > beach because every bit of sand wants to go airborne. It can be > troublesome at times but it sure makes the kite surfers happy. The > water can be a bit cool since it doesn’t get as much of the nice, > shallow Caribbean warming. The warmest, and calmest, water was right > in front of Club Orient. Even if staying further down the beach it is > worth a walk down there for a swim (with or without attire). > ** Schedule ** > Our average beach day could be summed up as follows: > 1. Morning walk up and down the beach. > 2. Breakfast in the room. > 3. Get some sun at La Playa. > 4. Meal along the beach. > 5. More sun time. > 6. Afternoon walk up and down the beach. > 7. Drinks and a few snacks at a beach bar until dark. > For our walks we would start from the middle, go north to the far end > of the beach in front on Mount Vernon hotel, turn south and walk to the > south end in front of Club Orient, and then reverse back up to the > middle of the beach. This gave us a good overview of the entire beach > and what was going on. > ** Observations ** > The people at Club Orient were almost all nude, as you would expect. > Still, nobody there seems to mind when a clothed person walks through. > During our first day there we didn’t feel like walking the entire > length of the beach and did our turnaround at the rock break marking > the start of Orient Beach. Right after we turned around a nude man > coming the other way stopped us and said it was OK to walk up through > the other part of the beach as well. We thanked him and said we were > just tired that day. Every walk of ours after that went all the way > through Club Orient to do our turn at the true far end of the beach. > After Club Orient you don’t see many nude sunbathers except for a > small enclave right about the 3/5 point going up the beach next to > another rock break. This rock break marks the transition from the > developed to the wild side of the beach. This other enclave is on the > developed side. > Along the wild portion of the beach you may see a few nude sunbathers. > These seem to be the ones just looking to avoid crowds. We didn’t > see any "hide and stroke" types along any portion of the beach, > which was definitely a good thing. > The Mount Vernon hotel was closed and being worked on while we were > there. I’ve seen other reports of the operators there harassing nude > sunbathers, but with nothing but workmen at the facility that wasn’t > happening. At least one time we saw nude sunbathers using the sand > right in front of the hotel. > Speaking of sand, the beach as a hole was in a declining phase while we > were there. Near the rock breaks you had to get your feet wet to cross > over and the big pipe by the middle of the beach was well out of the > sand. At the main concession locations they could only put out three > to four rows of chairs and had many, many more stacked up in back with > no place to go. > Being on the French side of the island, anywhere along the beach you > were likely to see topless sunbathers and walkers. In some parts of > the beach as much as 20-30% of the women would go topfree. Also, some > of the less shy nudist at Club Orient like to take a walk up the beach > and back. The concentration is highest during the morning and late > afternoon, but a few go for walks at any time of the day. > When the cruise ships come in you see a few "boat people" turn up > at the beach. Being that Orient Beach is about as far from the boat > dock as you can get, people don’t tend to end up there by accident or > without knowing what to expect. A big portion of them tend to wind up > at a few chair concession locations and those end up being mostly > textile. A few wander down to Club Orient or off to other locations if > they want to go nude or topless. For some reason the cruise ship > people don’t seem to like going nude and topless around their fellow > passengers. A few go on fully clothed gawking excursions to Club > Orient, but the inhabitants just ignore them until they get their eye > full and go away. > ** Food ** > Food at the beach was a bit of a let down. Most of the beach > restaurants serve fairly common food. If you want something memorable > you are better off going into Marigot (capital of French St. Martin). > For breakfast and often lunch we found it easier to pickup something at > the little market in Orient Village and eat back in the room. > Staying in a hotel directly behind La Playa, we tended to eat at the > beach restaurant there more than other locations. The service was very > acceptable and the view from the upstairs dining area was very nice. > The only problem with upstairs was the wind, which could make eating > difficult even with the plastic screens drawn. The restaurant at La > Playa had a tendency to run out of specials, but what was available > tasted great and had nice size portions. After a full meal all you > wanted to do is head back to the beach to bake for a few more hours. > ** Conclusion ** > If you are looking for a place where you can go clothed, topless, or > fully nude then Orient Beach is the place to be. All three types of > groups seem to get along just fine there. The beach has plenty of > services and caters to all types. My wife and I definitely plan on a > return trip at some point. > Beach Comber > // *** start gratuitous plug *** > http://worldbeachlist.com/World/Guadeloupe/Saint-Martin/Orient-Beach…. > http://worldbeachlist.com/topics/co-beaches.php > // *** end gratuitous plug ***
Thanks for the post. Very interesting.
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>> Responding to NNC’s call to take back rec.nude, let me offer up a > quick trip report from a vacation last year. <snip> > ** Conclusion ** > If you are looking for a place where you can go clothed, topless, or > fully nude then Orient Beach is the place to be. All three types of > groups seem to get along just fine there. The beach has plenty of > services and caters to all types. My wife and I definitely plan on a > return trip at some point. > Beach Comber
Thank you Beach Comber for the detailed and informative post – I think the best I’ve ever read about Orient Beach. My wife and I have been wanting to go for some time, and I think this could just spur us on to organise a trip. Mike www.barebritain.com
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> Thank you Beach Comber for the detailed and informative post – I think the > best I’ve ever read about Orient Beach. > My wife and I have been wanting to go for some time, and I think this > could just spur us on to organise a trip.
Mike, thanks. The message was crosposted by someone else from rec.nude, but I guess it does apply here equally as well. It would be nice if more people would post their experiences and impressions for other locations. I’m in the hunt for my next vacation spot, and it will be hard to top Orient Beach. The best thing I found about Orient Beach was just how much variety it had to offer. Only thing I found missing was easy access to a metropolitan area with more facilities (shopping, restaurants, etc). Still, for many, the isolation here may be just what they want. Enjoy your (potential) trip! Beach Comber http://worldbeachlist.com/
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> Beach Comber > http://worldbeachlist.com/
Nice list.
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I just finished keying in all the journal notes from my 12-night trip to the ABCs in early February. These are detailed notes of my exploring the three islands by bicycle. All written during the trip, mostly while waiting for ordered meals to be served. http://donwiss.com/carib2005.txt Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
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> All written during the trip, mostly while waiting > for ordered meals to be served. > http://donwiss.com/carib2005.txt > Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
Yikes, is that bad service or fast note taking?
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Have always enjoyed your photos, Don. One question – what’s the story behind the numerous little rock piles in your Aruba album? -Michele
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I just finished keying in all the journal notes from my 12-night trip to > the ABCs in early February. These are detailed notes of my exploring the > three islands by bicycle. All written during the trip, mostly while > waiting > for ordered meals to be served. > http://donwiss.com/carib2005.txt > Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
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>Have always enjoyed your photos, Don.
Thanks. > One question – what’s the story >behind the numerous little rock piles in your Aruba album?
I don’t know. I guess we’ll have to find some Aruba forum to ask in. Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
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Aruban’s think it is good luck to stack the rocks
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Is it really? We saw those piles on the north coast near the ruins we did a few also. We wanted to see how many pebbles we can pile up before the strong trade wind topple it. Are you sure others not did it for exactly the same reason?
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Have always enjoyed your photos, Don. > Thanks. > One question – what’s the story >behind the numerous little rock piles in your Aruba album? > I don’t know. I guess we’ll have to find some Aruba forum to ask in. > Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
If you put the last rock on the top of a pile – you will return one day. Enjoyed the photos. I have been to Bonaire a couple of times, but will get to visit it’s sisters later this year.
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Interesting trip report…one we shall no doubt read again..another side of the ABC’s that few travel. BTW I saw you self corrected the word Punta to Punda..I think in Papiamentu Punta is not a nice word..and in BON the oldest town is Rincon, not Rincom. I cannot believe you rode so much ..man, u must be 0 % body fat with all that biking and pemmican..what is Pemmican..
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>Interesting trip report…one we shall no doubt read again..another >side of the ABC’s that few travel. BTW I saw you self corrected the >word Punta to Punda..I think in Papiamentu Punta is not a nice >word..and in BON the oldest town is Rincon, not Rincom.
Thanks for the corrections. Now fixed. >I cannot believe you rode so much ..man, u must be 0 % body fat with >all that biking and pemmican..
Not much body fat at all. I do ride a lot on my vacations. They are opportunities to get a lot more exercise than I get sitting at a desk programming. The rides can be grueling. Especially one stupid leg in Aruba between the Natural Bridge and the Natural Pool. One thing nice about the ABCs is the lower humidity. More pleasant to bike in. >what is Pemmican..
Ground jerky mixed with rendered suet. The classic trail ration developed by Native Americans. I have some pictures here: http://donwiss.com/pictures/#food The most comprehensive page on it is here: http://w4.lns.cornell.edu/~seb/pemmican.html Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
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Punta to Punda.. In many places it just means "Point" as in headland. JJ
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> Not much body fat at all. I do ride a lot on my vacations. They are > opportunities to get a lot more exercise than I get sitting at a desk > programming. The rides can be grueling. Especially one stupid leg in Aruba > between the Natural Bridge and the Natural Pool. One thing nice about the > ABCs is the lower humidity. More pleasant to bike in.
What kind of programming and on our last Aruba trip, we saw these poor dudes and dudesses chomping along on that very stretch, cruise ship excursion, 100 degree heat, crappy road, we thought they were nuts. LOL
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>> Not much body fat at all. I do ride a lot on my vacations. They are > opportunities to get a lot more exercise than I get sitting at a desk > programming. The rides can be grueling. Especially one stupid leg in Aruba > between the Natural Bridge and the Natural Pool. One thing nice about the > ABCs is the lower humidity. More pleasant to bike in. >What kind of programming
In the 80’s I programmed debt issuances and refundings on Wall Street. I then went out on my own to write a program that prices traditional private placement bonds. Now I sell that program and write pricing programs for a reinsurance company. The results of my programming that most people see is my picture album website. All the html for that site is generated by an APL program. Right now I’m working on a section that will display all my foraging pictures in plant name order, and still use the existing images in their current file locations. >and on our last Aruba trip, we saw these poor >dudes and dudesses chomping along on that very stretch, cruise ship >excursion, 100 degree heat, crappy road, we thought they were nuts. LOL
The stretch along the coast between the Natural Bridge and the Natural Pool is taken by no tourists. At one place it is blocked off and even a true off-road vehicle is going to have a hard time making it through. On foot is the only sure way of getting through. Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
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>>What kind of programming > In the 80’s I programmed debt issuances and refundings on Wall Street. I > then went out on my own to write a program that prices traditional private > placement bonds. Now I sell that program and write pricing programs for a > reinsurance company. The results of my programming that most people see is > my picture album website. All the html for that site is generated by an APL > program. Right now I’m working on a section that will display all my > foraging pictures in plant name order, and still use the existing images in > their current file locations.
Congrats on your successes. >and on our last Aruba trip, we saw these poor >dudes and dudesses chomping along on that very stretch, cruise ship >excursion, 100 degree heat, crappy road, we thought they were nuts. LOL > The stretch along the coast between the Natural Bridge and the Natural Pool > is taken by no tourists. At one place it is blocked off and even a true > off-road vehicle is going to have a hard time making it through. On foot is > the only sure way of getting through.
Yeah, you’re right, I was talking about the trip *to* the Natural Bridge.
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Hi everyone This will be my first e-mail on this board, so this is not the right place to put this message please let me know. In any event I will I need to get to Casper, WY for somewhere near there for a funeral nest week. Just wondering what would be the closest airport to Casper? Would it be Denver, Salt Lake, or it there something? I seem to remember hearing that once Casper Airfield is now a small town. Also was hoping someone could give some information on funeral fares. What type of savings should I expect. Thanks J. Jenkins
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Hi there Yes you are correct in saying that old Casper airport is now the town of Bar Nun. You may wish to fly into Casper’s Natrona County International Airport, rather than DEN or SLC. CPR is serviced by 3 airlines, NW, DL, and UA, as well as 2 or 3 rental companies. The NW flights are oerated by Pinicale Airlines, while the DL and UA flights are operated by SkyWest. I have good luck with both companies. I would go with the one that provides the best fare or schedule. If they are the same I woudl then consider NW, as they offer regional jet service to CPR. Suppossed to be getting some snow this weekend and possibly nest week (I hope it does snow while I am on the Star Princess cruise Ship) and that mightmake for bad driving on the roads. I can’t speak to the discount received with funeral fares, but can suggest that you look at Hotwire.com. I say this, as I have some relatives flying into CPR today for a funeral, as well and they were able to get a good fare on this site. Looks as though they offer great last minute clearance fares. Michael – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi everyone > This will be my first e-mail on this board, so this is not the right > place to put this message please let me know. > In any event I will I need to get to Casper, WY for somewhere near > there for a funeral nest week. Just wondering what would be the closest > airport to Casper? Would it be Denver, Salt Lake, or it there > something? I seem to remember hearing that once Casper Airfield is now > a small town. > Also was hoping someone could give some information on funeral fares. > What type of savings should I expect. > Thanks > J. Jenkins
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Why don’t you people try visiting a foreign country NOT surrounded by 100,000 tonnes of steel. You are like Japanese tourists who can’t do anything unless on a fully escorted guided tour.
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> Why don’t you people try visiting a foreign country NOT surrounded by > 100,000 tonnes of steel. > You are like Japanese tourists who can’t do anything unless on a fully > escorted guided tour.
Don’t make sweeping generalizations. Some of us view cruise ships as places to have fun and relax at sea. When we are in a port many of us do our own excursions. I’m one of "us". I am an avid photographer and artist. When I go ashore, I go where my camera takes me even if it is well off the beaten path. I don’t think that I am the exception either. Also, I’m not afraid to use a real e-mail address — unlike you. — To email me, Edit "xt" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!" View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951
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That is why I absolutely will not go on any ship having more than 600 people; and rarely will do that, perferring . . . . . River cruising with about 100-150 people aboard. I know the large ships are very popular; but it is beyong my appreciation to get off and on as well as negotiate a behemoth with 2000 people. "Iti is better to be vaguely right than precisely wrong. –J. M. Keynes
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I’ve been to Caribbean resorts, Mexican Resorts, Disney Resorts, B&Bs, France, England, Spain, Germany, Holland, A Greek Isle, Israel,Italy, Austria, Singapore and Thailand. I’ve never been on a cruise ship and need a relaxing vacation and thought this would be good. Stop being another judgmental American and learn to enjoy your own life without the need to compare it to others.
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> Why don’t you people try visiting a foreign country NOT surrounded by > 100,000 tonnes of steel. > You are like Japanese tourists who can’t do anything unless on a fully > escorted guided tour. > Don’t make sweeping generalizations. Some of us view cruise ships as > places to have fun and relax at sea. When we are in a port many of us do > our own excursions. I’m one of "us". I am an avid photographer and > artist. When I go ashore, I go where my camera takes me even if it is well > off the beaten path. I don’t think that I am the exception either.
He/she is probably related to Dennis Harris, the Sage of Juneau.
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WHO CARES??
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Why don’t you people try visiting a foreign country NOT surrounded by > 100,000 tonnes of steel. > You are like Japanese tourists who can’t do anything unless on a fully > escorted guided tour.
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I’ve taken approx. 10 cruises to Mexico. I’ve never taken a tour on any of my trips, nor have I been off the ship for more than an hour in any one port. …I take the cruise, not to see the country, but because I like what the ship provides (food, entertainment); I like being on the ocean– on the move; and I like nice sunny, hot weather. …Jon
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> I’ve taken approx. 10 cruises to Mexico. I’ve never taken a tour on any > of my trips, nor have I been off the ship for more than an hour in any > one port.
This surprises me not.
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>>I’ve taken approx. 10 cruises to Mexico. I’ve never taken a tour on any >of my trips, nor have I been off the ship for more than an hour in any >one port. > How sad for you. Mexico is a magestic and history-filled country full > of gracious people. > Karen
How can you go 10 x however many Mexican ports and not get off the ship……once? I hope J1000 is not seriously infirmed.
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I think you mis-read my post. …I do get off the ship. ….However, going to Mexico — specifically to see the sights — is not my purpose for taking the cruises down there. …I do like the ports, however, as I usually have the aft pool all to myself for an hour or more. …Jon
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Chrissy said: <This surprises me not.> …And your point is ?? …Jon
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Karen… Well Jeez, Karen… How sad for you for not having been to Paraguay, Chad, or Timbuktu. When I feel like exploring the Mexican countryside, I won’t hesitate. …OK? …Jon
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> I think you mis-read my post. …I do get off the ship. ….However, > going to Mexico — specifically to see the sights — is not my purpose > for taking the cruises down there. …I do like the ports, however, as I > usually have the aft pool all to myself for an hour or more. …Jon
You only got off for an hour when you did. Nothing interests you in all these ports for more than an hour? You could have bought marijuana for testing out your theories on permanent brain death at least.
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No need to buy marijuana for testing purposes, Chrissy. …Your response to my reply is a perfect example of its insidious effect. …Jon
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>>I think you mis-read my post. …I do get off the ship. ….However, >going to Mexico — specifically to see the sights — is not my purpose >for taking the cruises down there. …I do like the ports, however, as I >usually have the aft pool all to myself for an hour or more. …Jon > You only got off for an hour when you did. Nothing interests you in all > these ports for more than an hour?
I have now reformed my opinion of cruising. One of my new years resolutions was to visit more prestigous hotels, and indulge myself more. If some people like visiting a nice hotel (which happens to be on water), that’s ok. I still prefer hotels that are attached to the ground though.
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..Someone here once remarked about the benefit of cruising, as opposed to staying in a hotel. …The scenery is always changing outside on the balcony. …Jon
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> No need to buy marijuana for testing purposes, Chrissy. …Your response > to my reply is a perfect example of its insidious effect. …Jon
One word. WebTV
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> Perfecto was guiding her to her next port, Chrissy Cruiser >You could have bought marijuana for testing out your theories on permanent >brain death at least. > Johnny lives in BC. Taking pot there is like taking coal to > Newcastle….
LOL I did not know that.
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Chrissy… This is the best response you can come up with? —You’re slippin, my Dear. ….Those old "fall-back-on-the-webtv-remarks" when you can’t come up an intelligent response went out years ago. Tell you what: Would it make you happy if I lay down my wireless keypad; get up from my nice soft bed (with plush pillows, no less); walk past the 60" TV screen I am currently viewing this post on; sit down on the hard old chair sitting 10 feet in front of me; hunch myself over my "computer" with the piddly 16" screen; and reply to your post? …Jon
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Perfecto was guiding her to her next port, Chrissy Cruiser >> Johnny lives in BC. Taking pot there is like taking coal to >> Newcastle…. >LOL I did not know that. > Here’s link for an article about the size of the BC pot industry: > http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/195/bcmarijuana.shtml > —-excerpt—- > Here’s what they are up against, according to the OCA: The province > boasts 15,000 to 25,000 marijuana grow operations employing (at six > persons per grow) between 90,000 and 150,000 people. The agency > estimated the annual wholesale value of the pot crop at $4 billion. At > $2,000 per pound, that is about two million pounds of BC bud each > year, much of it headed south. The agency estimated that as much as > 95% of the crop is exported to the ravenous US market. > "I’m not aware of anywhere in North America where a single [illegal] > industry would be this important," Jim Brander, a professor of > business economics at the University of BC, told the Vancouver Sun > after studying the report. > —-end excerpt—- > Stephan
Holy Moley and I thought Tennessee and Kentucky were bad news. Thanx.
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> Chrissy… This is the best response you can come up with?
I don’t know since being on WebTV you didn’t post it.
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> Chrissy… This is the best response you can come up with? —You’re > slippin, my Dear. ….Those old > "fall-back-on-the-webtv-remarks" when you can’t come up an intelligent > response went out years ago. > Tell you what: Would it make you happy if I lay down my wireless > keypad; get up from my nice soft bed (with plush pillows, no less); walk > past the 60" TV screen I am currently viewing this post on; sit down on > the hard old chair sitting 10 feet in front of me; hunch myself over my > "computer" with the piddly 16" screen; and reply to your post? …Jon
You do realize, of course, that a PC can have a wireless keyboard and also connect to a large display (with or without wiring), and not require the use of a telephone line. I am not saying that WebTV isn’t useful, just that this "wireless keypad" and a large display are things that don’t require WebTV.
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Well I guess it boils down to tit for tat…. After all, we get shafted with the softwood lumber –and just about every other aspect of the free trade agreement. …But of course, when it comes to pot, it’s the demand which is causing the problem. …If the schools, the parents,and the government bureaucrats etc. would start educating the kids about the dangers of pot. Then perhaps ……But what the hell am I saying… They’re off screwing up their brains too. …Jon
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…I paid about 200 bucks for my webtv outfit. Been using it steady for approx. 7 years now. No problems, but I did have to replace the keypad– cost 23 bucks. …I can do just about anything on this device as what I can on my computer, and I don’t have to worry about viruses either, ’cause it can’t catch them. …Jon
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> I can do just about anything on this device as what > I can on my computer,
Well, that about says it all for your computing skills.
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> We are going on HAL, Westerdam, Eastern Caribbean. My wife and I have been > to St.John, Virgin Gorda, St. Lucia, Jamaica and St. Thomas before so the > trip is less about the port calls than the cruise. We are an early 40’s > married couple. > We’ve never been on a cruise ship before, though we have taken a river > cruise in France. > We booked a balcony cabin on the stern, is this good?
Not if you’re Ben Smith but for you two, hell yes. What cabin or deck? > What extras should I indulge in and which should I avoid? Massage,
No. > dinners,
If you’re hungry. > excursions?
What’s your itin? > Will it be a fight for deck chairs around the pool?
Depends on how strong you look.
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Abbott, You cabin is a great location and many people I know always ask for this location. You dining assignment can be requested as either early or late seating and your TA is the person you should have told your preference to. Early is my choice as I like to have the evenings free with plenty of time to see the shows and enjoy company. Others feel rushed and request late seating. Massages and other spa treatments are great but they are pricey. The gym is free as are the steam and sauna which are very relaxing. A dinner in the specialty dining area is very nice and can also be very romantic so yes that is a great option. Excursions will be at your choosing and as you already know the ports you should be able to decide what appeals to you. The deck chairs are hit and miss. If you want something right beside the pool it is tough but there really should be no difficulties finding chairs close and in good locations. Relax and enjoy your cruise. Jim Staff Supervisor www.cruisemates.com The Free Internet Cruise Magazine
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are going on HAL, Westerdam, Eastern Caribbean. My wife and I have been > to St.John, Virgin Gorda, St. Lucia, Jamaica and St. Thomas before so the > trip is less about the port calls than the cruise. We are an early 40’s > married couple. > We’ve never been on a cruise ship before, though we have taken a river > cruise in France. > We booked a balcony cabin on the stern, is this good? > How do we get dinner seatings? Any recommendations? Should I bring my tux? > What extras should I indulge in and which should I avoid? Massage, dinners, > excursions? > Will it be a fight for deck chairs around the pool? > Any advice will be appreciated, thanks
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We are going on HAL, Westerdam, Eastern Caribbean. My wife and I have been to St.John, Virgin Gorda, St. Lucia, Jamaica and St. Thomas before so the trip is less about the port calls than the cruise. We are an early 40’s married couple. We’ve never been on a cruise ship before, though we have taken a river cruise in France. We booked a balcony cabin on the stern, is this good? How do we get dinner seatings? Any recommendations? Should I bring my tux? What extras should I indulge in and which should I avoid? Massage, dinners, excursions? Will it be a fight for deck chairs around the pool? Any advice will be appreciated, thanks
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> We booked a balcony cabin on the stern, is this good?
Sounds great to me. > How do we get dinner seatings? Any recommendations?
Your travel agent should have asked you your dining preference when you made the booking. HAL has 4 seatings. The two early ones are (approx) 6:00 (upstairs), 6"30 (downstairs) and the late seatings are 8:00 (upstairs) and 8:30 (downstairs). I ideal for me would be the earlier of the late seatings, but either late seating would suit me fine. Later dinner means less rushing for you to return from shore, time for some r&r in your cabin (snooze, drinks, etc.) and so on. Eating late doesn’t deprive you of any of the activities. They schedule the big shows so that everyone has a chance to attend if they wish. The late seating is also more relaxed as they’re not in a rush to get you out of the dining room to set up for the next group of passengers. Not that there are a lot of kids on HAL to begin with, but expect fewer at the late seating than you’d find early. > Should I bring my tux?
Sure. Why not? Might as well use it if you’ve got it. Lots of men wear tuxes on HAL – you most definitely will not be out of place. > What extras should I indulge in and which should I avoid? Massage, dinners, > excursions?
I usually treat myself to a spa service or two. They are incredibly overpriced – a rip-off really, but I find that aspect easy to ignore when I’m vacationing. And, I have to say, that I’ve had some of my very best spa services on cruise ships. I go to a local, pretty fancy, day spa for facials, massages, etc. And, for the most part, the services I’ve received on ships has met or exceeded what I’ve gotten locally. Treat yourself to one meal at Pinnacle Grill. It’s $20 extra per person, but really great. I didn’t get around to doing this until the last night of my Zuiderdam cruise. Hated not to eat with my tabelmates on that last night, so I made my Pinnacle (Odyssey) reservation for 7:00 or so, and was able to make it back to my regular table to enjoy coffee with everyone and to say my good-byes. I try to book my excursions independently. The ones offered by the ship ar fine, but the groups tend to be a little too big for my taste, and they do charge a lot of money for the convenience, etc. Since you’re familiar with the ports you’ll be visiting, I wouldn’t hesitate to do your own thing. Just give yourself double the amount of time you think you’ll need to get back to the ship. Ship won’t wait for folks who go it alone, without the ship babysitters. > Will it be a fight for deck chairs around the pool?
HAL is probably the sanest, as far as deck chairs go. You should be okay if you stake your claim by, say 9:30-10:00am. Probably later. > Any advice will be appreciated, thanks
Just enjoy your cruise – you picked a good one to start. Lee
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We are going on HAL, Westerdam, Eastern Caribbean. My wife and I have been to St.John, Virgin Gorda, St. Lucia, Jamaica and St. Thomas before so the trip is less about the port calls than the cruise. We are an early 40’s married couple. We’ve never been on a cruise ship before, though we have taken a river cruise in France. We booked a balcony cabin on the stern, is this good? How do we get dinner seatings? Any recommendations? Should I bring my tux? What extras should I indulge in and which should I avoid? Massage, dinners, excursions? Will it be a fight for deck chairs around the pool? Any advice will be appreciated, thanks
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> We booked a balcony cabin on the stern, is this good?
Sounds great to me. > How do we get dinner seatings? Any recommendations?
Your travel agent should have asked you your dining preference when you made the booking. HAL has 4 seatings. The two early ones are (approx) 6:00 (upstairs), 6"30 (downstairs) and the late seatings are 8:00 (upstairs) and 8:30 (downstairs). I ideal for me would be the earlier of the late seatings, but either late seating would suit me fine. Later dinner means less rushing for you to return from shore, time for some r&r in your cabin (snooze, drinks, etc.) and so on. Eating late doesn’t deprive you of any of the activities. They schedule the big shows so that everyone has a chance to attend if they wish. The late seating is also more relaxed as they’re not in a rush to get you out of the dining room to set up for the next group of passengers. Not that there are a lot of kids on HAL to begin with, but expect fewer at the late seating than you’d find early. > Should I bring my tux?
Sure. Why not? Might as well use it if you’ve got it. Lots of men wear tuxes on HAL – you most definitely will not be out of place. > What extras should I indulge in and which should I avoid? Massage, dinners, > excursions?
I usually treat myself to a spa service or two. They are incredibly overpriced – a rip-off really, but I find that aspect easy to ignore when I’m vacationing. And, I have to say, that I’ve had some of my very best spa services on cruise ships. I go to a local, pretty fancy, day spa for facials, massages, etc. And, for the most part, the services I’ve received on ships has met or exceeded what I’ve gotten locally. Treat yourself to one meal at Pinnacle Grill. It’s $20 extra per person, but really great. I didn’t get around to doing this until the last night of my Zuiderdam cruise. Hated not to eat with my tabelmates on that last night, so I made my Pinnacle (Odyssey) reservation for 7:00 or so, and was able to make it back to my regular table to enjoy coffee with everyone and to say my good-byes. I try to book my excursions independently. The ones offered by the ship ar fine, but the groups tend to be a little too big for my taste, and they do charge a lot of money for the convenience, etc. Since you’re familiar with the ports you’ll be visiting, I wouldn’t hesitate to do your own thing. Just give yourself double the amount of time you think you’ll need to get back to the ship. Ship won’t wait for folks who go it alone, without the ship babysitters. > Will it be a fight for deck chairs around the pool?
HAL is probably the sanest, as far as deck chairs go. You should be okay if you stake your claim by, say 9:30-10:00am. Probably later. > Any advice will be appreciated, thanks
Just enjoy your cruise – you picked a good one to start. Lee
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> We are going on HAL, Westerdam, Eastern Caribbean. My wife and I have been > to St.John, Virgin Gorda, St. Lucia, Jamaica and St. Thomas before so the > trip is less about the port calls than the cruise. We are an early 40’s > married couple. > We’ve never been on a cruise ship before, though we have taken a river > cruise in France. > We booked a balcony cabin on the stern, is this good?
Not if you’re Ben Smith but for you two, hell yes. What cabin or deck? > What extras should I indulge in and which should I avoid? Massage,
No. > dinners,
If you’re hungry. > excursions?
What’s your itin? > Will it be a fight for deck chairs around the pool?
Depends on how strong you look.
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Abbott, You cabin is a great location and many people I know always ask for this location. You dining assignment can be requested as either early or late seating and your TA is the person you should have told your preference to. Early is my choice as I like to have the evenings free with plenty of time to see the shows and enjoy company. Others feel rushed and request late seating. Massages and other spa treatments are great but they are pricey. The gym is free as are the steam and sauna which are very relaxing. A dinner in the specialty dining area is very nice and can also be very romantic so yes that is a great option. Excursions will be at your choosing and as you already know the ports you should be able to decide what appeals to you. The deck chairs are hit and miss. If you want something right beside the pool it is tough but there really should be no difficulties finding chairs close and in good locations. Relax and enjoy your cruise. Jim Staff Supervisor www.cruisemates.com The Free Internet Cruise Magazine
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are going on HAL, Westerdam, Eastern Caribbean. My wife and I have been > to St.John, Virgin Gorda, St. Lucia, Jamaica and St. Thomas before so the > trip is less about the port calls than the cruise. We are an early 40’s > married couple. > We’ve never been on a cruise ship before, though we have taken a river > cruise in France. > We booked a balcony cabin on the stern, is this good? > How do we get dinner seatings? Any recommendations? Should I bring my tux? > What extras should I indulge in and which should I avoid? Massage, dinners, > excursions? > Will it be a fight for deck chairs around the pool? > Any advice will be appreciated, thanks
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> As far as how much you can bring, I remember a cruise > director making fun of a lady that brought 22 suit cases on > a one week cruise. I don’t know if that was fact or just a > bit during his act. But there isn’t a whole lot of room in > your cabin to store suitcases. Maybe someone else here can > say if there is onboard storage available as I really don’t > know.
The cruise director on our last cruise used that joke, as did the cruise director on the cruise we took several years ago, and before that. Come to think of it, in the 3 cruises we’ve taken on 2 different lines, the cruise director and commedians all told the same jokes.
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You’d think that would be a brilliant idea, unfortunately there’s a good chance some stuff will be stolen. Very common here for items to get stolen from the car while waiting for customs.
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I think you are referring to the Jones act and from what I understand that doesn’t apply. I am coming from one of the Caribbean "territories" but shouldn’t be an issue from what I’ve been told or found online.
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It’s the Passenger Service Act and Puerto Rico is specifically excluded, but there may be other islands also. — Greg (Remove the ‘.invalid’ twice to send Email)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I think you are referring to the Jones act and from what I understand > that doesn’t apply. I am coming from one of the Caribbean > "territories" but shouldn’t be an issue from what I’ve been told or > found online.
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George, Thanks for the info, I’m not in PR but it’s neighbor to the east. I’ll check into it to be sure. T.R.
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> You’d think that would be a brilliant idea, unfortunately there’s a > good chance some stuff will be stolen. Very common here for items to > get stolen from the car while waiting for customs.
When shipping a car from the mainland US to Hawaii we were informed that unofficially, anything found in the car is considered a "tip" by the folks shipping the car.
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| How much does a cruise line allow you to bring on board? | Any help would be greatly appreciated! | | T.R. | Why not pack any stuff you won’t need immediately into your car? That would free up space in a cabin, and give you "free shipping" for some of your stuff. And simplify getting on and off the ship. If you’re planning on meeting your car when you arrive, you’d have to put it all into your vehicle anyway. LES!
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Hi there, I’m moving from a tropical paradise back to the states and will need to ship my car back to Miami. While the car is in route I was thinking the best way to get back to the states would be on a cruise ship since there are 3-6 almost daily docked here. I figure I get on a cruise that stops here, follow it for a few days and arrive in Miami about the same time as my car. I’ve been told its possible just don’t know the details. Does anyone know if one cruise line is better about this sort of thing than others? Do cruise lines charge the same amount for a "partial" cruise as a full cruise? How much does a cruise line allow you to bring on board? Any help would be greatly appreciated! T.R.
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I’ve been told its possible just don’t know the > details.
Definitely possible….call a TA or one of the cruise lines direct. Last summer we left Dover, first stop was Amsterdam…a couple boarded there and finished the cruise in Copenhagen. (HAL)
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@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > Hi there, > I’m moving from a tropical paradise back to the states and will need to > ship my car back to Miami
It can be done under the right circumstances. You will not be able if coming from one of the US islands, the others would be case by case.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi there, > I’m moving from a tropical paradise back to the states and will need to > ship my car back to Miami. While the car is in route I was thinking > the best way to get back to the states would be on a cruise ship since > there are 3-6 almost daily docked here. I figure I get on a cruise > that stops here, follow it for a few days and arrive in Miami about the > same time as my car. I’ve been told its possible just don’t know the > details. > Does anyone know if one cruise line is better about this sort of thing > than others? > Do cruise lines charge the same amount for a "partial" cruise as a full > cruise? > How much does a cruise line allow you to bring on board? > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > T.R.
I had a friend do that several years back. He was living in Cozumel and booked a cruise ship back to Miami. Of course, he had to pay for he full cruise. They couldn’t sell his cabin to anyone else for only two days! As far as how much you can bring, I remember a cruise director making fun of a lady that brought 22 suit cases on a one week cruise. I don’t know if that was fact or just a bit during his act. But there isn’t a whole lot of room in your cabin to store suitcases. Maybe someone else here can say if there is onboard storage available as I really don’t know. Just my $.02 — Ray Contreras Webmonkey for: http://www.ossystems.com http://www.bobs-garage.com http://www.rayzplace.com
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Hi there, I’m moving from a tropical paradise back to the states and will need to ship my car back to Miami. While the car is in route I was thinking the best way to get back to the states would be on a cruise ship since there are 3-6 almost daily docked here. I figure I get on a cruise that stops here, follow it for a few days and arrive in Miami about the same time as my car. I’ve been told its possible just don’t know the details. Does anyone know if one cruise line is better about this sort of thing than others? Do cruise lines charge the same amount for a "partial" cruise as a full cruise? How much does a cruise line allow you to bring on board? Any help would be greatly appreciated! T.R.
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I’ve been told its possible just don’t know the > details.
Definitely possible….call a TA or one of the cruise lines direct. Last summer we left Dover, first stop was Amsterdam…a couple boarded there and finished the cruise in Copenhagen. (HAL)
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@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > Hi there, > I’m moving from a tropical paradise back to the states and will need to > ship my car back to Miami
It can be done under the right circumstances. You will not be able if coming from one of the US islands, the others would be case by case.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi there, > I’m moving from a tropical paradise back to the states and will need to > ship my car back to Miami. While the car is in route I was thinking > the best way to get back to the states would be on a cruise ship since > there are 3-6 almost daily docked here. I figure I get on a cruise > that stops here, follow it for a few days and arrive in Miami about the > same time as my car. I’ve been told its possible just don’t know the > details. > Does anyone know if one cruise line is better about this sort of thing > than others? > Do cruise lines charge the same amount for a "partial" cruise as a full > cruise? > How much does a cruise line allow you to bring on board? > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > T.R.
I had a friend do that several years back. He was living in Cozumel and booked a cruise ship back to Miami. Of course, he had to pay for he full cruise. They couldn’t sell his cabin to anyone else for only two days! As far as how much you can bring, I remember a cruise director making fun of a lady that brought 22 suit cases on a one week cruise. I don’t know if that was fact or just a bit during his act. But there isn’t a whole lot of room in your cabin to store suitcases. Maybe someone else here can say if there is onboard storage available as I really don’t know. Just my $.02 — Ray Contreras Webmonkey for: http://www.ossystems.com http://www.bobs-garage.com http://www.rayzplace.com
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| How much does a cruise line allow you to bring on board? | Any help would be greatly appreciated! | | T.R. | Why not pack any stuff you won’t need immediately into your car? That would free up space in a cabin, and give you "free shipping" for some of your stuff. And simplify getting on and off the ship. If you’re planning on meeting your car when you arrive, you’d have to put it all into your vehicle anyway. LES!
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> As far as how much you can bring, I remember a cruise > director making fun of a lady that brought 22 suit cases on > a one week cruise. I don’t know if that was fact or just a > bit during his act. But there isn’t a whole lot of room in > your cabin to store suitcases. Maybe someone else here can > say if there is onboard storage available as I really don’t > know.
The cruise director on our last cruise used that joke, as did the cruise director on the cruise we took several years ago, and before that. Come to think of it, in the 3 cruises we’ve taken on 2 different lines, the cruise director and commedians all told the same jokes.
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You’d think that would be a brilliant idea, unfortunately there’s a good chance some stuff will be stolen. Very common here for items to get stolen from the car while waiting for customs.
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I think you are referring to the Jones act and from what I understand that doesn’t apply. I am coming from one of the Caribbean "territories" but shouldn’t be an issue from what I’ve been told or found online.
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It’s the Passenger Service Act and Puerto Rico is specifically excluded, but there may be other islands also. — Greg (Remove the ‘.invalid’ twice to send Email)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I think you are referring to the Jones act and from what I understand > that doesn’t apply. I am coming from one of the Caribbean > "territories" but shouldn’t be an issue from what I’ve been told or > found online.
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George, Thanks for the info, I’m not in PR but it’s neighbor to the east. I’ll check into it to be sure. T.R.
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> You’d think that would be a brilliant idea, unfortunately there’s a > good chance some stuff will be stolen. Very common here for items to > get stolen from the car while waiting for customs.
When shipping a car from the mainland US to Hawaii we were informed that unofficially, anything found in the car is considered a "tip" by the folks shipping the car.
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Veendam from Anchorage to Vancouver in August. Which side of the ship should I book a cabin for best views? TIA AG
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>Veendam from Anchorage to Vancouver in August. Which side of the ship >should I book a cabin for best views? >TIA >AG
SOPH, starboard out (Vancouver to Anchorage), port home (Anchorage to Vancouver). I assume you live in Alaska, and we know that Dennis would never be caught dead on a cruise. — dillon "When the French are against it, you know we can’t be far wrong." - Adm. Bobbie Ray Inman
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Much thanks to all who answered my inquiry, private or public. Thanks very much!! AG
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>Veendam from Anchorage to Vancouver in August. Which side of the >ship >should I book a cabin for best views? > I’d book portside for views of the coast, starboard for views of the > sea. > Karen
Ummm …. don’t forget that for at least 1/2 of the trip, Vancouver Island — not "open seas" will be what you see from starboard cabins.
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> Veendam from Anchorage to Vancouver in August. Which side of the ship > should I book a cabin for best views? > TIA > AG
It really doesn’t matter that much as the ship moves at night and only when you are in the inside passage do you see land close enough to matter and then it is on both sides of the ship.
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What’s to see at the sea?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>Veendam from Anchorage to Vancouver in August. Which side of the ship >>should I book a cabin for best views? > I’d book portside for views of the coast, starboard for views of the > sea. > Karen > Ummm …. don’t forget that for at least 1/2 of the trip, Vancouver > Island — not "open seas" will be what you see from starboard cabins.
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Veendam from Anchorage to Vancouver in August. Which side of the ship should I book a cabin for best views? TIA AG
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>Veendam from Anchorage to Vancouver in August. Which side of the ship >should I book a cabin for best views? >TIA >AG
SOPH, starboard out (Vancouver to Anchorage), port home (Anchorage to Vancouver). I assume you live in Alaska, and we know that Dennis would never be caught dead on a cruise. — dillon "When the French are against it, you know we can’t be far wrong." - Adm. Bobbie Ray Inman
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Much thanks to all who answered my inquiry, private or public. Thanks very much!! AG
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>Veendam from Anchorage to Vancouver in August. Which side of the >ship >should I book a cabin for best views? > I’d book portside for views of the coast, starboard for views of the > sea. > Karen
Ummm …. don’t forget that for at least 1/2 of the trip, Vancouver Island — not "open seas" will be what you see from starboard cabins.
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> Veendam from Anchorage to Vancouver in August. Which side of the ship > should I book a cabin for best views? > TIA > AG
It really doesn’t matter that much as the ship moves at night and only when you are in the inside passage do you see land close enough to matter and then it is on both sides of the ship.
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What’s to see at the sea?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>Veendam from Anchorage to Vancouver in August. Which side of the ship >>should I book a cabin for best views? > I’d book portside for views of the coast, starboard for views of the > sea. > Karen > Ummm …. don’t forget that for at least 1/2 of the trip, Vancouver > Island — not "open seas" will be what you see from starboard cabins.
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